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Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 08:01
by VulcanDriver
I backed all my data on to my D drive so I will do a clean install on C. I've put the PC into a clean boot state and turned of my anti-virus software as that can also confuse the W10 installation. Only thing left connected is the D drive so if it fails this time I'll disconnect that. Also read that it's a good idea to unplug the PC from the Net after its downloaded all the files prior to the actual upgrade process. I'm going to try that too. Will report back later.

These might be of use. W10 error codes

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... windows-10

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 09:00
by VulcanDriver
After another failed attempt I got 0xC1900101-0x20017 error. MS says its because my ASUS Gladiator machine is running a non-supported AMD Phenom 4 64bit chipset. Looks like I'm on Windows 7 for now.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 10:40
by Weescotty
Weird!
Assuming yours is the 800 series chipset.....
AMD has drivers that support Windows 7/8/8.1 and 10

Edit - download and run cpu-z and attach a screenshot of the cpu info.

Also check for a bios update from the motherboard manufacturer.
My eldest needed a bios update for windows 10.

My 7 year old laptop is allegedly Windows 10 capable, trying in later this week.

You have me worried about my main computer which has an AMD x6 1100T in it!

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 11:29
by VulcanDriver
Hi Kevin

Here are the details
CPU AMD Phenom X4 9650 Quad-Core (2.3GHz)
Motherboard Foxconn A7VMX-K
Chipset AMD 780V + SB700
4Gb RAM

It's an Advent Centurion gaming tower not as I said in my earlier post. It must be old age.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 12:15
by Weescotty
Did a quick check....

The cpu supports everything that is need.
AMD has Windows 10 drivers for the 700 series chipset.

Check your bios and make sure the option for data execution prevention is turned on.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 13:12
by VulcanDriver
Thanks Kevin will do that tomorrow.

Cheers

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 14:01
by Weescotty
Just to see......

I went ahead and tried the upgrade on my 7 - 8 year old laptop (Acer 9410).

Turned off anti virus and wireless.
Stock apart from an SSD in place of the mechanical HD.

Windows 10 32-bit (laptop only supports 4Gb memory max) installed without an issue.
Even all the Acer utilities work!

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 14:43
by VulcanDriver
Weescotty wrote:Did a quick check....

The cpu supports everything that is need.
AMD has Windows 10 drivers for the 700 series chipset.

Check your bios and make sure the option for data execution prevention is turned on.
Can't find the data execution prevention option in my BIOS.

Edit: ran a check using Windows 7 wmic command and found it its enabled in the hardware at policy level 2

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 14:47
by VulcanDriver
Weescotty wrote:Just to see......

I went ahead and tried the upgrade on my 7 - 8 year old laptop (Acer 9410).

Turned off anti virus and wireless.
Stock apart from an SSD in place of the mechanical HD.

Windows 10 32-bit (laptop only supports 4Gb memory max) installed without an issue.
Even all the Acer utilities work!
Did you disconnect any USB devices before the update?

I've downloaded the recommended AMD drivers via the MS Windows 10 website. Seems they updated the graphic card drivers and that was it.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 19:34
by VulcanDriver
After doing the driver update etc. It still failed after the reboot with same error code and the message that it failed at the SAFE_OS stage. Two days wasted, so I'm sticking with Windows 7. MS have said that they know of install problems with older 64-bit CPUs and that they are working on a fix. So I'll wait until I get a notification.

Need to get FS9 working again now :shock:

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 21:22
by Weescotty
Well at least I can give you some good news....
FSDS seems to work perfectly on Windows 10 32 bit, so really no reason it shouldn't work on the 64 bit version.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 05:10
by VulcanDriver
That is good news. One thing the new chipset drivers has done is to increase the definition of my monitor. I'd be interested to see what the fps is in FS9.

Edit: Well its made a big difference. With everything turned up to the Max, FPS is a solid 60 (unlimited FPS) using photorealistic scenery with high detailed airports and the start up time is 100% quicker than before. Oh and no scenery jitters when flying. At this rate I may keep Win7 :D

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 15:08
by BadPvtDan
Another thing I'm reading is that if you cut the head off a chicken, pour its blood all over your naked body, and wrap the CPU fan in entrails...the install may run fine. But this is only for people in the UK.


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Re: Windows 10

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 15:28
by petebramley
I'm gonna let you guys over the pond do all the guinea pig work and find all the pitfalls. Then when I get around to installing
it should be all sweetness & light (Oh hang on its Microsoft were on about here innit) Doon Doom Doom :D :D :D

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 16:17
by VulcanDriver
Well it gave me the chance to clear all the crap out of my PC. So its not all bad!!

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 12:47
by campbeme
VulcanDriver wrote:That is good news. One thing the new chipset drivers has done is to increase the definition of my monitor. I'd be interested to see what the fps is in FS9.

Edit: Well its made a big difference. With everything turned up to the Max, FPS is a solid 60 (unlimited FPS) using photorealistic scenery with high detailed airports and the start up time is 100% quicker than before. Oh and no scenery jitters when flying. At this rate I may keep Win7 :D
John, where did you find the chipset updates, I have a similar Advent also?

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 15:11
by petebramley
My god it worked

2 PC's upgraded yesterday and only 1 small problem with an Ethernet adapter. FS9 and all the bolt-on's
seem to be fine (touch wood).

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 18:12
by VulcanDriver
campbeme wrote:
VulcanDriver wrote:That is good news. One thing the new chipset drivers has done is to increase the definition of my monitor. I'd be interested to see what the fps is in FS9.

Edit: Well its made a big difference. With everything turned up to the Max, FPS is a solid 60 (unlimited FPS) using photorealistic scenery with high detailed airports and the start up time is 100% quicker than before. Oh and no scenery jitters when flying. At this rate I may keep Win7 :D
John, where did you find the chipset updates, I have a similar Advent also?
I found them on http://www.amd.com/en-gb

Cheers

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 18:20
by Firebird
I had a helluva nasty shock today.

As I stated earlier I had to buy two new SSDs so that I would 20GB available on each for the '10 upgrade.
The first one, for the Missus (well never do your own first), went smoothly. Attached it externally to a USB port and using the Samsung software I cloned the drive. Afterwards, swapped the 60GB drive out and put the 250GB in. The reboot went well and it started that the drive was now installed and to reboot. This went well.

Then my one. I did the same thing and yet on startup it took 90mins to boot I got loads of errors, things not found etc. So went back to the original disk and the same thing occurred.
After a long story, I noticed that it started doing a chkdisk on the X: drive, where FSX would be, and it was finding errors all over the place and started deleting stuff. It turns out that the drive cable to my HD was actually broken and so can't be held in place correctly. Opening the case made it not connect properly. After the connection was made as good as possible, I re-cloned the SSD and tried again. This time Bootmgr is missing came up and it wouldn't boot, neither would it on the original disk.
Searched the internet, tried using the free Partition Magic Boot iso but it seemed to make no difference. Then read the next thing to try was to repair using the Windows 7 boot disk. This failed because it said that the version was not correct, I am now SP2 and the install disk was for SP1, so it said to try to create a repair disk from a friends installation so used that option of the Missus's PC.
That seemed to solve the problem! Success, placed all the panels back on and then 'Bootmgr is missing'! Used the repair cd again and it worked and booted up, but something couldn't load as they couldn't be found. The partitions on the HD were missing again.! Panel off, reset the loose connection and it finally worked.

It took me 6 hrs today to achieve something that should have been doable in 15mins. Several times I had nightmare visions of all those years of FS stuff going up in smoke. Still I have it back up and I can now upgrade to 10.

That can't be as bad - surely.

Re: Windows 10

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 21:34
by VulcanDriver
Nightmare Steve! Hope the upgrade goes well.